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Wednesday, February 11, 2009

If You're An Atheist You Are Irrational




Yes I said it - If your an Atheist you are a highly irrational person.  You are being just as foolish as if you and I walked up to a watch on the table and I said "check out this new watch with all it's intricate gears winding, it's sleek and modern design, it's minute & hour hand telling the precise time of day, isn't it cool?  Man this watch maker must of known his stuff"  and you say.............. "What watch maker?  There is no watch maker."  or "I don't believe in a Watchmaker.   You would have to please forgive me if I began to laugh at you.  Perhaps you missed all the design in the watch?  Perhaps you overlooked the simple fact that the watch relays "information" by telling you the approximate time of day?  And the sheer fact that if you remove any one of those gears inside, the watch will not work at all?

This would be silly wouldn't it?  There is no way I would be able to convince someone who saw the watch that there was no watch maker could I?  Just as I wouldn't be able to convince you a painting had no painter, a building had no builder and a garden had no gardener.  

So why would "rational" people think that the universe in all it's design, it's rationality (yes the universe is rational otherwise you would have no "laws" such as gravity and inertia etc)  All of the design factors?  All that is necessary to work simultaneously for humans to exist on this planet.  What Luck huh!!!   The bible is true when it says in Hosea "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, because you have rejected knowledge..."

I don't understand how many people can play Russian Roulette with their eternity. The bible says in 1st Corinthians:

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.


I don't say this to scare you, though it is a startling claim in the bible.  I say it because the scriptures are true, accurate and infallible.  The bible has stood the test of time and heavy scrutiny, don't you think that maybe this claim is true?  The bible in all it's predictions have been 100% accurate in coming to pass.  Why would we think that this claim wouldn't be true either?  

Do you really think there is no God just because you claim there isn't?  Does someones claim that there is no God make that true or them right?  In addition, and to add to their foolishness, they make this claim without having done any inductive study on the topic.  There is great evidence for Christian Theism if you would only look, you don't even have to look hard for it.  I have news for you "God doesn't believe in Atheists"  To claim that there is no God or to disbelieve in his existence is to have all knowledge isn't it, otherwise your statement can't be true.  I know this has been mentioned on the blog many times but lets look at the logic here;  For you to say there is no God means you would have to have all the knowledge in the world.  If I were to say there was no gold in China I would need to know that there isn't a single ounce of it anywhere, not in someones tooth, not hidden in a jewelry box in someones dresser drawer etc.  For my statement to be false you would only need to find a single ounce of gold in China right?  Now lets consider a wonderful and serious quote from Thomas Edison ""We do not know one millionth of one percent about anything" 

Now lets say man knows a mere 1% of everything in the entire universe (that's a lot), is it possible that God exists in the other 99%?  For you to claim otherwise is like saying you have all the knowledge in the universe and thus your statement is true.  Now I'm not trapping you in asking you to prove a negative, what I'm asking you is to be like the Bereans in Acts

Acts 17:11
Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.


If you can do an inductive study of these things, such as where did the bible come from, how was it put together, is there evidence from Archeology, Astronomy, Mathematics, History and Biology for the existence of God and still come to the conclusion that there is no God, then I would have much more respect for you in regards to the matter.   But I will much more pity the person who just says "there is no God" without even opening their eyes and looking into these things.  Your eternal destination depends on it.  It's my prayer that the Father will reveal Himself to everyone though he says himself in 2nd Peter;

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.


And finally I just wanted to post something to keep things into perspective here.  This is something Sir Isaac Newton shares regarding an atheist colleague of his and in my opinion, states the obvious.  Enjoy the video as well - it shows what an Atheist truly believes........  That something created nothing, a scientific impossibility.  So who has more faith now, the Christian or the Atheist? One believes an intelligent being made everything, the other believes.... "nothing" made everything.  As I said at the start of this post, you are being irrational.

Sir Isaac Newton is considered one of the two greatest scientists of the last 500 years. He clearly saw the implications of celestial mechanics and the intricately designed wonders in the sky.

“One day, as Newton sat reading in his study with his mechanism on a large table near him, a friend, who saw things differently than he did, stepped in. Scientist that he was, he recognized at a glance what was before him. Stepping up to it, he slowly turned the crank, and with undisguised admiration watched the heavenly bodies all move in their relative speed in their orbits.

“Standing off a few feet he exclaimed, ‘My! What an exquisite thing this is! Who made it?’ Without looking up from his book, Newton answered, ‘Nobody.’

“Quickly turning to Newton, his friend said, ‘Evidently you did not understand my question. I asked who made this?’ Looking up now, Newton solemnly assured him that nobody made it, but that the apparatus had just happened to assume the form it was in.

“The astonished man replied with some heat, ‘You must think I am a fool! Of course somebody made it, and he is a genius, and I’d like to know who he is!’

“Laying his book aside, Newton arose and said, ‘This thing is but a puny imitation of a much grander system, whose laws you know,—and here I am not able to convince you that this mere toy before you is without a designer and maker!

” ‘Yet you profess to believe that the great original from which the design is taken, with its more massive and complicated orbital motions, has come into being without either designer or maker! Now tell me by what sort of reasoning do you reach such a conclusion?’ “—The Minnesota Technolog, October 1957.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

I find it unhelpful to label athiests as irrational.

1. It is not always true.
Many athiests I know are extremely intelligent and more rational and quick-minded than Christians I know. 1 Corinthians, I believe, admits that there are few who were really wise (in a generally sense) who turned to Christ. Many Christians are very simple, and I mean this not as an insult.

2. Human reasoning has its limits.
Everyone makes assumptions. We cannot objectively compute all the evidence all the time. There have been times when I, for one, followed logic to its logical conclusions and have found myself wrong. This is especially easy if one small but important thing is neglected. While doing calculations, it would be easy anyone to misplace a decimal point or a negative sign, but it could totally destroy the accuracy of the results. Simple mistakes can screw up everything. As Rick Joyner points out, heresy is often the result of people following what was only revealed in part to its logical conclusions.

It is probably true that you, sir, are irrational in many ways that you do not perceive. If others do perceive it, it is embarassing for you and makes you look like the hypocrite. We all live in glass houses, so humility goes a long way.

Besides, calling anyone irrational does not sound like humility or love which must be our chief motivators. Those are the things that are most likely to attract others to Christ.

3. It is insulting
Calling athiests irrational is only preaching to the choir. You will offend athiests (some of whom are the greatest minds in the world today) while only making Christians feel good about themselves (i.e., puffed up and proud).

4. Athiests lack a foundational truth
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Like a mathemetition who did not take into account one vital variable at the beginning of his calculations, athiests fail to take into account the reality of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.

I believe that athiests are sometimes extremely intelligent, rational people who ought to be respected for their intellect. However, they are blind to the mystery of faith, and they cannot be free until they experience Jesus' wonderful love through faith.

highdesert said...

Hi, Joe. No posts in a while from you; I hope all is well with you and your family.

I appreciated most of this comment from Christian Darwinist (except of course I disagree with the last part.) I was getting downhearted when all my comments on your posts were met with responses about how my comments were wrong or not logical etc. It felt like you couldn't even think about them before responding negatively. It didn't make me feel insulted, but it did make me feel disheartened. So I was glad to see Chistian Darwinist's comment (and surprised you didn't argue against that comment too.)

highdesert said...

Since you and some of the websites you like don't hesitate to put negative labels on atheists, I'll give you some in return. I've been reading the Pharyngula blog by PZ Myers lately. He is anti-religion and anti-creationism. Since I've watched the videos you posted, maybe you'll read some of these. Note, they are not creationism-friendly, but yours weren't friendly to atheists or science.

Here's a post that addresses Ray Comfort and one of his misunderstandings about evolution - you may have the same misunderstanding.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/03/elephantine_errors_from_ray_co.php

Here's one that is about the idea that creationism should be taught in schools and how it would work out in practice:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/03/how_creationism_should_be_taug.php

Here's a post of his that links to another blog with a post against creationism. I have to say that the post it links to is more insulting than I like and also using language I don't use. It's mainly a put-down. But I post it as a response to some of your videos; you're probably tough enough to read it without being distressed:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/03/so_thats_why.php

highdesert said...

Hi Joe.
Hope all is well with you and your family on this Easter weekend.

Joe Sirianni said...

hello,

thank you kindly, and same to you.

it's been extremely busy to comment on the blog with this new promotion and raising my family. But don't worry, there will surely be some posts coming out eventually :)

Joe